Right, so we've had a letter in regards to our cease and desist from Community Volunteers Wales, RCV, previously known as Coronavirus 19 or whatever they were called, or We Grow, not We Grow anymore, because you've had your allotment taken off you and then you had four police cars to escort you off there because you were threatening a little old man with...
that were tools I believe, that's where four police cars turned up.
So, I'm not sure who Jenna Davis is.
Perhaps she's a trustee.
Another one.
Another one.
Oh, at least we had Jayne Price on the envelope and HCT who put the false name on there.
Please accept this letter as a formal acknowledgement of receipt of your undated letter received to the pantry on Saturday the 5th of April.
Okay.
The letter which I even closed a photograph of for your reference makes serious but vague allegations regarding copyright infringement and trademark misuse.
Well, you have because you've set up, or one of your previous trustees has set up a website against me.
We know that because her husband is a website designer and he's very similar to your websites.
And obviously I've got subject access requests of letters and things written by Sherlock, you know, and obviously it comes up with your IP address.
Same as HCT's did.
So, we are trademarked and if you are using our name and our logo and anything, whether it's positive or defamatory, then you are in breach of trademark, regardless of whether you use it positively or not, and you don't do it positively.
I also have letters off a previous landlord that you've been writing to other landlords, emailing, and one of your volunteers daughters has been emailing landlords to try and get us kicked out of our premises.
So, I'd be very careful if I were, because we are in receipt of all of those items.
Big allegations regarding copyright infringement and trademark issues.
While Community Volunteers Wales takes legal concerns of this nature extremely seriously, the letter fails to provide specifics such as the name or the ULR.
Well, maybe you should Google it.
Maybe you should ask your founders about it because they know about it, because they set it up.
The content allegedly in breach or any supporting evidence to sustain claims.
I don't need any of that because I'm not in court with you yet.
If I send you out to cease and desist, you're to cease and desist.
We view the tone and lack of detail in your letter as an intended, less to protect the intellectual property and more cause unnecessary distress to staff and volunteers.
Well, why are all the staff and all the volunteers involved?
Daniel, your letter, your cease and desist, as distressed Community Volunteers Wales.
I thought it was vague.
I thought it was vague.
How can you distress people if it's vague?
I must express my deep disappointment, like I'm going to lose any sleep over that, that this is a manner in which you have chosen to communicate with another community-based organization.
Well, how would you like me to communicate?
Smoke signals?
A website, a defamatory website, like you've done it with us?
We sent you out a legal cease and desist to your place of work.
That is the correct way to do it.
To clarify, the only websites affiliated with Community Volunteers Wales are thepantry.org and cvw.org.
As marketing manager, how much are you getting paid by RCV to be marketing manager, by the way?
Can I ask you that?
Because you're charging five pound for food that's been given to you off a supermarket and charging vulnerable people in the community five pound plus two pound for their card plus another two pound if they lose their card and I think they've got to pay two pound every six months.
I may have got that wrong, please bear with me with that one.
For clarification on my part, because I can't be bothered to really look at your website and your pages anyway.
So how much are you getting paid as a marketing manager?
I'd like to know that and I can get that via subject access, so it's up to you if you Ah, but it isn't you that set up the website.
I know set up the website is Tara's husband because he's a website designer, isn't he?
As marketing manager, I can confirm that your brand has never appeared on either of these websites.
No, it hasn't.
Your baby bank has appeared on the malicious website.
If you read the letter, that's what it would tell Yeah, so you have a legal responsibility.
I've clarified this with the Charity Commission because you're bringing your charity into disrepute to get that off that website.
Nor have we had any intent or interest in affiliating ourselves with an organisation.
Yeah, snap.
Yeah, I refused to work with it a long time ago.
A long time ago, we refused to work with you.
When there was £10,000 we're missing from the St. John's Ambulance Hall and you were horrible to the old people who used to run it.
You guys only had access to the office, nobody else did.
However, as you have now opened a former line of communication, I will welcome the opportunity to address the ongoing public misinformation and unsustainable accusations that you've made against our charity.
Okay, so anything that we've put online is out there in the public domain and
certainly slander if it's not true.
So feel free to take me to court.
Including through live broadcast posts and comments in light of your...
Oh, and verbally.
You can add verbally on it.
Tell everybody about it.
In light of your apparent interest in former legal process, we're preparing a collection of defamatory statements you've made online and we'll be requesting you to remove them from public view immediately.
I won't be removing them because it's only slander if it's not true.
So I don't need to remove them.
You're more than welcome to ring the police and file malicious communications complaint.
But just remember, it's only malicious if it's not true.
You do charge people for food.
You charge vulnerable people for food.
Please be advised that the form... and you are writing, you know, members of your organisation are writing to the council making complaints and our landlords.
We've got the evidence.
And I knew you would respond like this with hostility because Baby Basics didn't.
They contacted me straight away and they were like, yep, and they got a day of taking down off the website.
That's why I haven't put it online because I'll be taking you to court as well.
In the meantime, please be advised that a formal summary of this... yep, yep, that's fine.
In the meantime, we encourage you to review your own content.
Conduct of charitable organisations.
I'm not a charity, sorry.
I'm a registered baby bank and registered food bank and I'm not answerable to anybody.
The ASA cap code part four entitlement harm offence states blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, because it's only harmful if it is not true.
And right now, everything we've said is true.
Finally, if you're issuing legal and claiming breach of trademark or copyright, we would expect future communities be presented on appropriate branded letterhead.
Why?
Clearly dated and written with the correct grammar and professionalism.
Well, unfortunately, Daniel wrote it.
You are unaware that Daniel might have dyslexia or any other learning difficulties.
And, you know, I think really there that's an opportunity for your staff to go on an equality training course because just because somebody has newsletter headed paper or spelled something correctly doesn't mean to say that they're not professional.
I'll tell you what is unprofessional is making up a website about us.
Trying to blag that you haven't done it.
We are mates.
When we we are in possession of the subject access, and I didn't even need a subject access for the landlords, they actually sent me the emails that they'd add off.
Community Volunteer Wales trustees and volunteers, which can't wait to pull a lot out my little file, my little file club.
Mm-hmm.
If you want to take us to court, you're more than welcome.
We sincerely hope this matter can be resolved in a respectful and lawful manner.
Okay, there's nothing unlawful about me doing a video about your letter.
I don't know what you mean by lawful manner.
Because you've been issued with a cease and desist.
And this isn't the first time either.
So if I were you, I would adhere to it.
Otherwise, you're going to find yourself in court.
And like I said, you've got 28 days to get your baby bank.
I don't know what, I can't remember what you're called.
You've got so many names now, it's ridiculous.
Like keep, you know, keep dodging under that radar, isn't it?
We're changing your name all the time.
So yeah, you... maybe you should be more respectful and act in a lawful manner.
Because right now, developing our website, you're not.
And I think everybody can see it really.
Everybody can now see where you're like, especially by the tone of your letter.
